Revisiting the Survival Community Myth
Posted on: July 15, 2013Back just about two years ago, I wrote a blog post discussing what I called the “Survival Community Myth.” You can read that post here.
I still stand 100% behind that post, as it was what I felt the truth to be at that time. However, in the intervening years between then and now, some things have changed.
In the last 24 months, I’ve received more than a few messages from people who are starting or have already started some form of survival community. Some appear more serious about it than others, having already secured land, constructed buildings, and started gardens. Others were still in the raising capital stages, working on obtaining funds to get things rolling.
I was even asked to be a spokesperson for two different outfits.
Some of these communities developed organically, arising out of an established group centered around hunting, camping, and the outdoors. Like-minded people who were already together in some capacity and decided to make things a little more official.
Interestingly though, the only communities I’ve seen that are actively recruiting members are those that aren’t funded yet. The others with which I’m familiar aren’t looking to add new people, except and unless they are fully recommended and vetted by current members.
In other words, while survival communities have become more popular, it is still difficult if not impossible to find one to join, at least without knowing someone already involved with one. The exception to this rule are those communities that are still in the planning stages and looking to raise money to acquire the land and build the structures.
Another thing that hasn’t changed is that many people seem to still be looking for an existing survival community to be the answer to all their needs. They figure they can join up, often citing some sort of military or law enforcement experience and offering to work “security” for the community, and not have to worry about stockpiling food or supplies. If TSHTF, they’ll just hightail it to the community and set up shop.
The reality is most of the survival communities I’m aware of require the members to bring with them at least enough supplies to provide for their own needs for a given period of time, say a month to a year. The community will provide the members with storage space for their gear and supplies but they aren’t looking to feed and clothe anyone.
As I’ve said before on this site and elsewhere, I’m a HUGE proponent of community survival. But, just like with any other aspect of prepping, you can’t expect someone else to do all the heavy lifting.
It is amazing how what is pointed out in this article is so right on, even with the reverse. People who would tell me about this great spot they have picked out, or relatives live at, and then when I start about how we need to build up supplies at the location I get “oh, well, you are cool if shit hits the fan, but I don’t know if anyone wants you keeping a lot of stuff there, it would mean you basically have a right to live there”. Yeah, no shit.
The reverse is true with those who want to “check out the place” but “with no promises of investment” which reminds me of “let me know the combination of your safe you know, just in case something happens to you…
Survival retreats require a huge investment in resources and time, but fortunately, if the group dynamic is right, you can shift it to money OR time, but in either event, it requires substantive commitment, not just friend browsing and the age old way the “for real” survivalist gets treated “you are a barely tolerable weirdo unless we need you”.
While I agree with you, what I was referring to are people who want to join these communities well before any calamity. They have little to no supplies but figure they can trade on their experience to become a member of the security detail. Never mind the fact that those working in that capacity would have to be among the most trusted people in the community.
While I am not a prepper, if I were in a community and someone came armed, asking for food in return for security, I would turn that person away. It would just be too weird for someone to come prepared to use guns to eat. What else might that person use guns to obtain?